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Gabriach

Short multi-cache along paths, approx. 20-30 minutes.

door aj-gps Oostenrijk > Steiermark > Graz

N 47° 06.854' E 015° 24.797' (WGS84)
andere coördinaatstelsel Grootte: klein Status: Beschikbaar Benodigde tijd: 0:30 h Lengte: 1.8 km Verborgen op: 04. juli 2007 Listed since: 08. juli 2007 Laatste verandering: 20. april 2022 Listing: https://opencaching.de/OC3B3F Ook gepubliceerd op: geocaching.com	24 Gevonden 1 Niet gevonden 1 Opmerking 1 Watcher 0 Negeerders 161 Bekeken 0 Log pictures Geokrety verleden

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Basic information
This short multi-cache, which will take approximately 20-30 minutes, will lead you to the church of St. Veit, part of the district Andritz, north of Graz. The church itself is located on a hill, just high enough to offer a view over the city.
It is not recommended to visit this cache at night as some parts of this cache and the final location are located at places where the use of flashlights might either not be appropiate or arouse suspicion.
It's not necessary to enter the coordinates of all the stages into the gps-receiver - most can be found by just following the description. Just in case coordinates are still supplied.
Note: One stage is located on a graveyard. It is just a question to answer and I recommend to act appropiately and put away the gps-r. Relatives of mine found their last home there, so ...

Information found in this description is based on various on- and offline sources. Most should be reliable, but I can't guarantee their validity.

Approach
Car: I'd recommend to leave your car along the street where the parking coordinates - waypoint PARK, N47 06.817 E015 24.835 - are pointing to. There are some places around stage 1 where one could leave a car, but they are all marked as private property.
Bike: Take bike-way R2 north along the left (east) side of the river "Mur". If you approach from south you will pass a big DIY store ("Baumax"). Shortly afterwards - at waypoint BIKE, N47 06.434 E015 24.689 - turn right onto a small unpaved path. You will then drive along the so-called "Kirschenallee" (which basically translates to "cherry tree avenue") and pass some public sports grounds. Follow the path which then turns into a small paved road until you reach a street crossing. There turn right for a few meters, then left. Continue and you'll arrive at stage 1. You can then either continue by bike or leave it there.
Public transport: Take GVB bus #53 ("Hauptbahnhof-Stattegg/Fuss der Leber") and leave at station "St. Veit" (after "St. Gotthard"). This bus line also passes by the station "Andritz" which can be reached by GVB tram lines 4 and 5 and bus-lines 41 and 52. Bus/Tram-timetable available here.

Name
The settlement around the church used to be called "Gabriach", stemming from the Slavic word "gaber" which means hornbeam tree ("Weissbuche"). Today the nearby creek named "Gabriachbach" still refers to that name.
The hill of todays St. Veit used to be called "Am Aigen", which basically translates to "free property" - contrary to the back-then common fiefdom. Today a nearby street still reminds of that name.
By 1850 the municipality of "St. Veit ob Graz" was created. 1938, when todays district Andritz was annexed by Graz, the area became a part of Andritz, todays Graz' 12th district.

History
In the early middle ages the hill of (now) St. Veit used to be the base for an escape castle. Later on fortified defence towers were built, where people found shelter during the Hungarian invasion. The wooden walls were then replaced with stone and a nave was built, first referenced in books by 1226.
In the 17th century todays church, designed by the Italian builder Domenico Sciassia (died in Graz February 19th, 1679) who also extended the Basilica of Mariazell (1644-1683), was built. He also built the chapel at the nearby castle St. Gotthard, but this chapel was teared down in 1808.
Works on the building in St. Veit finished 1662 and 1680 a baroque high altar was created by Hans Adam Weißenkirchner, painter at Eggenberg, donated by prince Seyfried of Eggenberg. In 1713 the churchtower was built (re-built in 1951).

By 1780 children were educated in a room of a tavern next to the church. 1901 todays' school was built.
1906 the first power lines were laid and electric light could be used.

Stage 1: chapel
At stage 1 - N47 06.854 E015 24.798 - you'll find a small chapel, a reminder for the times when Pest plagued the residents.
Nearby there are two direction signs, a green one below a white one.
A = number of graphical symbols on the second sign (the green one) excluding the arrow
B = number of letters of the last word of the inscription of the chapel (6 words)
Note: The inscription was overpainted during the last renovation works. You will find an older picture of the chapel on a sign nearby where you can spot the old inscription.

Now follow the street uphill.

Stage 2: the school
The first building to your right is the school of St. Veit. In Winter the slope below the gym hall is a very popular place for luging.

N47 06.919 E015 24.731
A work of art by small artists, Natalie and others.
C = last digit of the year, 200x

Now continue uphill until you reach a street to your left.

Stage 3: memorial of war
N 47° 06.934 E 015° 24.704
D = Nearly the last digit of the date: 1860 19x5

If you came by bike leave it there, we'll pick it up later.
Now take the street to your left, and walk along until you reach a parking lot. While walking there have a look at the city to your left.

Stage 4: a warning
N47 06.930 E015 24.624
At the right side of the parking lot near the path to the church you'll find a sign with a red edge.
E = Number of question marks on the sign
(0? E=0; 1? E=1; 2? E=2, 3? E=3, ..)

Now continue to the church, but please put away your gps-r first. It's a graveyard, not your playground.

Stage 5: cross
No coordinates are given for this stage (for obvious reasons). The target is a (really) large wooden cross on the South side of the church building.
F = second digit on the cross

Now continue around the church until you reach some stairs leading to the street below. Right next to the stairs there is a wooden door which leads onto the concrete archway that you might have spotted from stage 3 and to the parsonage. I am not sure if entering the archway is allowed though, so we just walk down the stairs.
If you left your bike at stage 3 go down the few meters and fetch it, then come back up here.
Then continue on the street that's straight ahead until you reach a gravel road that leads downhill to your right.

Stage 6: famous guy
One of the best-known people in St. Veit was Lois Steiner (1907-1989), who used to be headmaster of the nearby school and is known for collecting Styrian folk songs.
You should now be close to a street carrying his name.
N47 07.035 E015 24.719
Here are two round signs with red edges on the same pole.
G = Twice the first digit of the sign that contains two digits. (The result is a single digit!)

If one would continue walking on the same street one would reach the post office of 8046 St. Veit, which was abandoned in June 2002. It looks like it was frozen in time, there are still advertisements from 2002 on its door..

Now take the gravel road downhill towards the "Gabriachbach".
This creek has it's source north of the church of St. Veit and flows into the "Andritzbach" near the B67a (bikeway R2). Parts of the flow of this creek are then used on the area of the cities northern waterworks (right across the street of waypoint BIKE) for artificial groundwater recharging purposes. The creek then flows into the river "Mur".

Below you'll see a more or less interesting construction - a retention pond for 26.200 cubic meters of water. It was recently built together with other installations at a cost of 2 billion euro in a response to the flooding that occured on August 21st, 2005, that devastated nearby basements and great parts of the allotment garden south-west of the parking coordinates. A picture timeline of its construction is available here.

Stage 7: Nice place
N47 06.994 E015 25.054
You have arrived at a rather nice place which used to be the final location for this cache for more than 10 years. During this time the area became a playground and the container went missing a few times.
Because of that you now have to answer a rather boring question:
H=What do you see?
2 - a yellow boundary stone
4 - a red warning sign
8 - a green birdhouse

By now you should already have all the necessary values for calculating the location of the final stage, the cache box.
N47 0(D-1).A(H+E)F E015 2C.E(C+G)(B+H) (no multiplications!)
The cache is covered with pieces of bark.

Way back: Follow the gravel road near Stage 7 south towards Stage 1.

HAVE FUN!

Gecodeerde hint Decoderen

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A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M
N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z

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The geocache is in good or acceptable condition. 02. januari 2023 Zoidberg73 heeft de cache gevonden

Ein nachmittäglicher Ausflug Richtung Andritz brachte Pimi1 und mich nebst einigen schönen Spaziergängen auch an so manchen Dosen vorbei...

Anmerkung zu diesem Cache: Diese Runde hat uns gut gefallen; die Hintergrundinformationen bei den einzelnen Stationen sowie Themen und Wegführungen zeigen hier einen richtig gut gemachten Multi aus den alten Tagen... nicht umsonst ist er nach so vielen Jahren weiterhin aktiv und "gut in Schuß". Die Informationen konnten problemlos ermittelt werden und am GZ war der Dosenfund eine klare Angelegenheit.

TFTC an aj-gps für Idee, Realisierung und Wartung dieses Caches!

31. juli 2019 Jacky81 heeft de cache gevonden

Schade das dass Final so entfernt von der Kirche liegt Hätte bei der Kirche sicher besser gepasst

24. mei 2014 run-cache-run heeft de cache gevonden

Anfangs war es relativ leicht, die Stationen zu finden, dann habe ich eine übersehen und bei der übernächsten kam dann ein anderer Cacher des Weges. So verglichen wir unsere Stationen, rechneten und gingen gemeinsam zum Final, was dann rasch gefunden war.

TFTC!

19. april 2012 a fluke heeft de cache gevonden

sehr netter und durchdachter multi besonders die finallocation hat mir gut gefallen
das bacherl kam gerade recht um die schuhe von der hundekacke zu befreien in die ich beim suchen von St.Veiter Kirche getreten bin ...

lediglich das kunstwerk der kleinen künstler konnte ich nicht ausfindig machen, da dort gerade gebaut wurde und ich nicht richtig herumsuchen wollte... der cache war aber auch ohne diese variable ausfindig zu machen

danke vielmals fürs verstecken

03. september 2011 helilen heeft de cache gevonden

In: Fisch

Out: Murmel

TFTC

18. augustus 2011 Bikonu heeft de cache niet gevonden

Tja, leider nicht gefunden. Hätte man doch alle Log's im Kopf gehabt, hätt's vielleicht geklappt.

Das mit den Frage- und Ausrufezeichen scheint echt eine verzwickte Sache zu sein.

Mal sehen, ob wir Graz mal wieder besuchen, dann gibt's vielleicht einen neuen Anlauf.

Trotzdem Danke für's Herführen - ist 'ne schöne Runde mit toller Aussicht und genügend Lümmelplätzchen.

28. mei 2010 Grauloewe heeft de cache gevonden

Sehr schöner Rundweg, hierhin wären wir sonst nie gekommen. Auf dem Friedhof war gerade eine größere Beerdigung vorbei, wir haben unseren Weg daher erst einmal unterbrochen. Anschließend aber alles sehr gut gefunden.

IN: TB / OUT: Lego-Zahnrad

TFTC
Großes Team Grauloewe

02. november 2008 ferret out heeft de cache gevonden

Ein netter kurzer Multi, bei dem man für die einzelnen Stationen nicht auf das GPS angewiesen ist.

TFTC

27. september 2008 Stonie23 heeft de cache gevonden

Endlich ! beim 3. Anlauf hats geklappt.
Habe bei den ersten Versuchen anstatt der Fragezeichen auf der Tafel, die Anzahl der Ausrufzeichen verwendet.
Fazit: Falsche Final Koordinaten und ca. 250m vom Cache entfernt gesucht und gesucht und......mich gefragt wo ist das Objekt das im Hinweis beschrieben wird.

Na ja! solche Fehler macht man warscheinlich nur einmal.

TFTC

02. augustus 2008 divingbrothers heeft de cache gevonden

Mit dem Team CrazyGustav waren die Fragen schnell beantwortet.

Die Cache Location ist ein wirklich netter Flecken Erde ;)

tftc

12. juli 2008 fam.feuerstein heeft de cache gevonden

War ein toller kindergerechter Cache. Diese Gegend war für uns mal was Neues, wir kommen ja von der anderen Seite von Graz.
IN: Winnie Puh, Tigger, TB
OUT: Bürste, Haribo-Bär im Auto
TFTC, fam.feuerstein

02. mei 2008 Gustus heeft de cache gevonden

Am späten Nachmittag zu einem schönen Abendspaziergang in "Gabriach" aufgebrochen. Nach diesem Cache kann man sehr entspannt und geruhsam suchen. Hat uns gut gefallen. Danke fürs Verstecken.

07. maart 2008 Lord Harry heeft de cache gevonden

Sehr schön gestalteter Multicache.
Alle Stationen klar und eindeutig!
TFTC XNSL

09. februari 2008 aj-gps heeft een notitie geschreven

Checked the cache - all ok, but the object in the hint is missing. Hint adjusted.
By the way: Who noticed the hidden GSM antenna near stage 6? [;)]

IN: Geocoin "2006 Kiwi Geocoin #6"

05. november 2007 Rhodo Dendron heeft de cache gevonden

Im Anschluß an die rauschenden Erfolge bei Rapunzel und Gebu's Playground auch hier alles rasch und souverän gelöst, bis kurz vor dem Ziel, wo ich plötzlich total souverän knietief im Wasser stand. Sah wirklich 1:1 wie Land aus die Stelle. Verdammte Winterzeit. Normal wär noch taghell um diese Zeit. Naja, wenigstens sieht einen keiner dabei. Die Dunkelheit hat auch ihre Vorteile.

TFTC NT

18. augustus 2007 orotl heeft de cache gevonden

Mit dem Fahrrad eine schnelle und lustige Runde.
Alle Stationen waren schnell und klar zu finden.
Schön dass die Baustelle endlich fertig ist und sich die Natur schön langsam wieder breit machen kann.

Die Cachdose lag offen und von weitem ersichtlich in ihrem Versteck, ich habe sie wieder gut getarnt.

Danke für den netten Cache!

In: TB
Out: 'The Geocoin Fairy' Coin

I did not read the last logs, so i thought this is a normaly trackable coin. But at home i detected that this one is a very nice present from 'The Geocoin Fairy'. So i unintentionally made a very bad downgrading [:O] Its my next job to correct my mistake, sorry!
Thanks to 'Geocoin Fairy' for this nice Coin!

11. augustus 2007 Chiroptera heeft de cache gevonden

Netter kleiner Spaziergang mit interessantem Ausklang
danke, Chiroptera

11. augustus 2007 rieglerp heeft de cache gevonden

samstag nachmittag bei strömenden regen war das heben kein problem.

tftc
rieglerp

02. augustus 2007 M.W. heeft de cache gevonden

Schöne Rundgang an einem sonnigen Vormittag - mit leichtem Bedauern nicht doch noch die Räder aus dem Auto genommen zu haben.
In ein Sternpin
Out ein Minikaleidoskop

Danke, M&W

19. juli 2007 JulieWood_Rabat heeft de cache gevonden

hallo

heute Nachmittag bei angenehmen Wetter diesen Kinderwagen freundlichen Cache gesucht und gefunden.

TFTCNT

Angi, Katharina & Martin

15. juli 2007 amarain_lisa heeft de cache gevonden

Bei Station Nr. 1 gleich Deejay angetroffen :) und so gings zu Viert los.Stationen waren schnell durchlaufen und an der Endlocation begann dann die laaanggee Suche :) Eigentlich waren wir richtig, aber es wollte keiner glauben. Dank Deejay Telefonjoker dann doch noch gefunden.
TFTC!
No Trade

15. juli 2007 n.wiesenhofer heeft de cache gevonden

Heut mit amarain_lisa zu diesem Cache aufgebrochen. Bei Station 1 ist dann gleich Deejay58 zu uns gestoßen (hat uns sehr gefreut, dich kennenzulernen) und wir nahmen die restlichen Stationen gemeinsam in Angriff. Der Hint war für uns nicht direkt hilfreich, da wie gesagt, einiges damit in Verbindung gebracht werden kann.
IN: Milkahase
OUT: TB

15. juli 2007 DeeJay58 heeft de cache gevonden

Die einzelnen Stationen trotz Schwierigkeiten (für die aber niemand etwas kann gemeinsam mit den wiesenhofers (Treffen war rein zufällig) gefunden. Allerdings haben wir laaaaaange nach dem Cache gesucht, da es hier doch einiges gibt, auf das der Hint zutreffen könnte. Dem GPS haben wir nicht so richtig vertraut und darum zweifelten wir schon an so manchem. Irgendwoher hat mir ein nettes Bienchen dann einen Tipp zugeflüstert und schon war der Cache auch problemlos genau dort, wo das GPS uns hinführte. Naja, Spaß hat's trotz der Hitze gemacht!
Danke für den Cache, getradet hab ich nix.

12. juli 2007 j-blue heeft de cache gevonden

Von Cezannes feedback zum cache inspiriert fuhr ich nach der Arbeit auch mal dort vorbei. Es gefällt mir auch sehr gut das man für die Stationen das GPS nicht braucht. Beim Kreuz war ich mir zuerst nicht ganz sicher wegen der "Digit" aber stimmte dann doch. Eine Station hab ich übersehen, also 300 m runter gehen und 300 m rauf gehen, aber macht nix, ist ja echt schön dort. Der cache war schnell gefunden, der Hint ist sehr hilfreich. Ein echt netter cache! Beim Rückweg hab ich mich voll gefreut das ich eine Abkürzung gefunden hab Danke an aj-gps.

Out: Coin
In: Multi-Kulti Lainyard

Den Renn-Tb hab ich leider zu Hause vergessen , aber am WE wird er weiter reisen!

11. juli 2007 cezanne heeft de cache gevonden

I was happy when this cache showed up. It is quite a long time ago that a cache that is reachable by bicycle for me and that looks attractive to me has been hidden.

I have not had heard about the cherry avenue, but I have to admit that although I appreciate the fact that a special waypoint has been provided for cyclists, I preferred to continue on the bikeway until it crosses with the street leading to the castle St Gotthart. I was not using my GPS and I had no clear idea which way to follow. In any case, the link to the waypoint provided in the cache description learnt me for the first time that there exists a waypoint menu which allows to view the location of additional waypoints by using, for example, google maps (so far I always did this job manually).

I like the area around St Veit and know it quite well. All intermediary stages were thus already known to me. Nevertheless, it was nice to visit these locations again in the evening. The sun was shining and the temperatures were pleasant for a walk, neither too cool nor too warm.

In retrospect it might have been the best idea to leave my bike close to Stage 3 and continue on foot. I left it close to Stage 6, among others because riding bicycles is not allowed on the path leading down to the retention pond - moreover I do not appreciate riding a normal bike on a rather bumpy gravel path - it is too painful for me). I feel that it was not worth to go back to fetch the bike after Stage 5 and ride to Stage 6.

I appreciated that it was not necessary to use a GPS-device except for the cache. Moreover, I liked that the cache description offers a lot of background information (though most of it was already known to me).

Stages 4 and 6 are not that impressive, however I understand why they have been introduced. I am relieved to realize that there still exist other cachers who apparently share my personal view about the role churches and graveyards can play in caches and are able to deal with such locations in a respectful way. I enjoy to visit churches and graveyards and among others appreciate the atmosphere of peace and quietness which can be found in places that have not yet been turned in tourist attractions (like some churches and graveyards in cities like Paris).

All questions are clearly formulated and all necessary data were quickly collected. I think that I even know where the previous two finders of the cache made their mistake though I do not feel that the English description can be blamed for this as I am convinced that the two know the meaning of the term that caused the problem. In any case, I am glad that there still exist caches with English descriptions. Certainly, it would even be better to offer a German version as well, but the same would hold true for the ever and ever growing group of caches which only have a German description. (Fortunately, the Slovenian cachers hiding caches in the Marburg area are more open-minded than many on the Styrian side of the border.)

While as mentioned above, all stages of the cache were known to me, the retention construction was new to me. This constructions appears to be very large - it is hard to imagine that that much water can collect up there to make it necessary, but in any case it is preferable to have a construction that is too large than one that is too small and does not protect the people living in the area from floodings.

After a short detour caused by a non-optimal route choice, I quickly found the cache. To my suprise I did not suffer from bad reception. The experiences from the last weeks made me already believe that my GPS-device does not work properly, but it appears that different cachers have different ideas of what can be called bad reception.

The cache container is still in good condition. I do not have a clear feeling of whether the cache will have good chances to survive at this place or not. The hideout is less daring than I had thought after reading the previous logs.

Thank you for this nice cache which I enjoyed. Together with the YABBC cache it is my favourite cache by aj-gps.

No trade

(The geocoin is still there - I left it as I already had this very coin in my hands.)

09. juli 2007 meliponini heeft de cache gevonden

Ich war gerade auf dem Heimweg von der Arbeit, als sich mir plötzlich ein unüberwindbares Hindernis in den Weg stellte: ein riesiger schwarzer Touareg [:D]. Also Fenster runter und: "Was machstn da?". Gemeinsam ging?s dann weiter zu den einzelnen Stationen und schließlich zum Cache. Nach kurzer Suche mussten wir uns jedoch noch einen kleinen Fehler eingestehen, immerhin war er dann schnell gefunden.
Ich frage mich nur, ob die Box da lange überlebt...

TFTC meliponini

IN: Coin remembering skinned Hefi